Fox 09

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5906685651&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT

The above link should take you to an auction that has ended on the bay. What is not so unusual is the price obtained for the speciman. It seems that this motor has suddenly become a darling must have for a lot of collectors. The funny thing is that I have about 10 of the critters and were bought for under $15.00 for most of them, and some for $5.00.
I had these as a 12 year old at $4.95. it was a bolt on to a Cox motor mount and supposedly get a power upgrade. Thats a a joke son. Sideport,ran best on a 6/4, if you used Missle Mist it wore out in a month of running. Gee maybe I'm mentioning all the reasons that people want one now.
Hey it's Sunday nite and I'm working on motors. Foxes are problems all the newer ones are going like clockwork. Engines made by automatic machines and people who know how to run them are a pleasure to work on.New technology at least makes them servicable.

Bob Watts very rarely ever fails to get big bucks for his engines. They are as represented, no junk.

Bill

>Bob Watts very rarely ever fails to get big bucks for his
>engines. They are as represented, no junk.

Bill, in no way was I criticizing anyone for the amount that they receive for merchandise on the bay.It's a free market and will bring what the market is willing to spend.
My comment was only to show how some of the most unsuccessful motors that were made do end up becomming the darlings of the collector world. The Fox 09 happens to be a great nostalgia piece for most of the 50 somethings who used them in their youth. Consequently the prices on good examples are rising fast.
Dennis

Have any affection for the Gilbert .11? Or any opinion, for that matter.

Just curious.

Dennis,I didn't take it that way and I apologize if my responce made it look like I did. I have watched Bob's auctions for a long time and have bought a few engines from him. My point was that if you do buy from him be prepared to pay top dollar.

Bill

>Have any affection for the Gilbert .11? Or any opinion, for
>that matter.
>
>Just curious.

The Gilbert motors came out too late to have any impact on me. I think it was 1963 or so when they came out and I graduated in 1963 and went into the service soon after. Dennis

I have to say, I think hey look neat with their little exhaust pipes. My brother flies FF, and I was thinking of doing up a Dakota with one for those rare times we get together. No chance of thermalling (if that's a word), and you don't have to chase them so far.

At first I was going to say that the bidders dictate the price of Bob's engines, but thinking about it, he's probably the number one engine guy on ebay and he does sell nice stuff and grades them accordingly. The guys bidding have probably bought from him before and know this, so the bids might might be a little strong.

Also, the Fox in auction had a box (NIB or Like NIB)...big differance on the smaller engines as compared to a engine 'like new'

So speaking of dogs that are bringing good money...when do you think Cubs and Testors/Wen-Mac engines will start bringing good money?

>At first I was going to say that the bidders dictate the
>price of Bob's engines, but thinking about it, he's probably
>the number one engine guy on ebay and he does sell nice
>stuff and grades them accordingly. The guys bidding have
>probably bought from him before and know this, so the bids
>might might be a little strong.
>
>Also, the Fox in auction had a box (NIB or Like NIB)...big
>differance on the smaller engines as compared to a engine
>'like new'
>
> So speaking of dogs that are bringing good money...when do
>you think Cubs and Testors/Wen-Mac engines will start
>bringing good money?
>
>Mark

Mark, I bought A NIB example Fox 09 for less then 35.00 this is hardly the thrust of my origional posting.
I'm hardly in the mood to get onto a useless diatride about the value of old motors in general. The Fox 09 had a very short production run, O.K. Cubs from 1948 till 1966. Wen Mac from the 50's till really the 70's as the Testor motor. Not hardly a comparison is there. My point of the post was to point out how we will go to great lengths to acquire a particular piece of memorabilia from our youth. Now if the Cubs and Wen Macs should suddenly get real scarce perhaps your question might be answered to your satisfaction.
Oh and where in any of this post did you ever see the word dog used to describe a motor. I usually reserve that description for the Fox 35, and that isn't mentioned in this thread

>>At first I was going to say that the bidders dictate the
>>price of Bob's engines, but thinking about it, he's probably
>>the number one engine guy on ebay and he does sell nice
>>stuff and grades them accordingly. The guys bidding have
>>probably bought from him before and know this, so the bids
>>might might be a little strong.
>>
>>Also, the Fox in auction had a box (NIB or Like NIB)...big
>>differance on the smaller engines as compared to a engine
>>'like new'
>>
>> So speaking of dogs that are bringing good money...when do
>>you think Cubs and Testors/Wen-Mac engines will start
>>bringing good money?
>>
>>Mark
>
> Mark, I bought A NIB example Fox 09 for less then 35.00
>this is hardly the thrust of my origional posting.
>I'm hardly in the mood to get onto a useless diatride about
>the value of old motors in general. The Fox 09 had a very
>short production run, O.K. Cubs from 1948 till 1966. Wen Mac
>from the 50's till really the 70's as the Testor motor. Not
>hardly a comparison is there. My point of the post was to
>point out how we will go to great lengths to acquire a
>particular piece of memorabilia from our youth. Now if the
>Cubs and Wen Macs should suddenly get real scarce perhaps
>your question might be answered to your satisfaction.
>Oh and where in any of this post did you ever see the word
>dog used to describe a motor. I usually reserve that
>description for the Fox 35, and that isn't mentioned in this
>thread

My point was to comment on a friend of mine, Bob Watts and totally tongue and cheek on Cubs and Wen-Macs...

"it was a bolt on to a Cox motor mount and supposedly get a power upgrade"...
For a engine twice the displacement, I guess I'd call that a dog.

Your right, the Fox 35 was a dog, that's why nobody ever used them for serious stunt!

Have a nice day.

by any act, error, or omission, I have, intentionally or
unintentionally, displayed any breedist, disciplinist, sexist, racist,
culturalist, nationalist, regionalist, localist, ageist, lookist, ableist,
sizeist, speciesist, intellectualist, socioeconomicist, ethnocentrist,
phallocentrist, heteropatriarchalist, or other violation of the rules of
political correctness, known or unknown, I am not sorry and I encourage you
to get over it.

Your right, the Fox 35 was a dog, that's why nobody ever used them for serious stunt!

Only because the Thor 29 went out of production to be replaced by the ultimate slag engine

You mean the Thor isn't made anymore? Darn! Knew I should have stocked up on them.
I think the last time I saw them advertised they were $2.95 at AHC.

> You mean the Thor isn't made anymore? Darn! Knew I should
>have stocked up on them.
> I think the last time I saw them advertised they were $2.95
>at AHC.
>
> George

George, your right you should have,so should I. A new Thor in the Box will sell for more then a new Fox 35. Not a bad return on a $2.95 investment. Considering they were both available at the same time.
Dennis

Bob is an excellent ebayer, and sells quality motors. Still, I am shocked by the price for a Fox 09.

Currell, you are right on about Bob. He always has a reserve and very rarely ever fails to make it. I think that what got this Fox so high was the having the box included. We collectors will pay more just to have that box. Might not make sense to others but it is the truth. I have new engines that don't mean as much to me as compared to the ones I have that are NIB. Just gots to have that box!

Bill