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rootbeard · Jul 07, 2004 09:00 AM

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I have never been to any type of C/L contest so this is a first for me.

Can you guys maybe tell me the best way to see the NAT's?
We will be there Thursday night, and will at the NAT's Friday and Saturday.

I want this to be something my boys will remember.

Thanks
Paul

I am a retread, - I did C/L in my youth and did not know what I was doing then other then having fun. And not much has changed.

peabody · Jul 07, 2004 09:54 AM

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Root...good days to be there!
I would suggest that you go to the pavillion and look around, (and don't feed/bother the tabulators) then ask questions. Remember that this is a fairly serious deal, and that kids generally make folks nervous, so please keep them close. The other thing to do is to respect the pit area and not to venture into the pits....the Wood-man will no doubt be there to shoo everyone away.
The judges should be left alone, too.
Have a ball!
And be sure to get to the other venues and the rc stuff.
It's all fun.

See Ya

Peabody

phantomflier · Jul 07, 2004 11:37 AM

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The AMA in the past has had a daily schedule of events, should be able to get one from the Contest center. There will be enough activity daily at the control line site that you won't have to worry about your boys having a good time, your problem will be trying to keep up with them. Be sure to check out the RC combat for sheer madness, your boys will enjoy that.

Shame the freeflight indoor isn't being flown there. Your boys might not be impressed, but I'll bet you would be blown away by some of the planes.

clflyer · Jul 07, 2004 10:06 PM

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Make sure you see all of the events. The first ones on your right will be Speed and racing, though I think racing is done by Friday. Speed will be Jets and I think Class D .65 cubic inch stuff. Fast and neat.
On your left will be the Combat circles and also my event Carrier. Friday will be the scale classes, class I .40 cubic inch engines aned Class II .65 cubic inch engines. We go fast, make a lot of noise and unbeliveabley slow. Can you believe 5 minutes for 7 laps?
On top of the hill is the Stunt circles where you can watch them dive at the ground at 65 mph and somehow pull out at 3-4 feet.
In the Rc area you will hear the high pitched whine of Pylon planes, going just about as fast as the C/L Speed planes and they are also flying Helicopters. There is one guy in helicopters who is really awesome. Flying inverted at 2 feet or lower.
Come on down, introduce yourself and ask questions, we don't bite and we welcome retreads with open arms.
Bill Calkins
NCS President

Interested in C/L? Check out my site:
http://www.clflyer.com
Bill Calkins

Iskandar Taib · Jul 08, 2004 02:23 AM

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RC Combat's over already - they're located a long ways from the CL site. Lee Liddle won again! In the past, CL has always taken place concurrently with RC Pylon Racing. They're just next door, it's easy to watch them, but you'll need to drive to over where their tents are to have a close look at the planes. A lot of those guys are former CL pilots, and some still fly CL Combat occasionally (say "Hi!" to Mike Condon and Dave Shadel for me if you run into them). If you want a large refueling syringe, there will be people selling those over at Pylon.

You might also get to see some RC Scale taking place. This is usually over quite quickly (only a couple days) but is fun to watch.

Right next to Stunt, which is on the tarmac L-Pad, are the grass circles. Some of these will be taken up by Combat. This will be more fun to watch than anything else going on, absolutely guaranteed. If you come early enough, there will be FAI Combat taking place. It's fast and furious, the action never stops. Pilots from all over the world will be there. Later on, for the Nats, there will be Fast Combat, 1/2-A Combat and Speed Limit Combat. Consider trying Speed Limit next year, if you come to the Nats again - it's fairly easy to get into. Consider volunteering - it's a lot more fun joining in than it is watching from the sidelines. The Combat people will be glad to have an extra pull-tester, or an extra cut counter.

Some of these grass circles will be available for practice flying/sport flying during the Nats week, particularly in the evenings, so make sure you bring something to fly! You'll see all sorts of interesting things going on, like someone flying a huge triplane, or, some years back, there was some guy with a huge B-17 flying upside down next to our circle.

Across the road from the grass circles will be an area of tarmac with a fence around it. This will be the Racing and Speed circles. There will be lots of non-stop activity going on there, as well. Late in the week, there will probably be Jet Speed models flying. If you hear something like a trombone flying around at 200 mph, that's what those are. You can hear them all the way from the Stunt area.

Be sure to spend some time at the museum. Really neat - they have a replica of a 1950s model airplane shop in there. All sorts of models. There's also a pretty neat hobby store, which is about a 15 minute walk from the Stunt circles. The owner's kid flies Free Flight. In the beginning he was upset that AMA bought the field, and a bunch of RC sport fliers were buzzing up and down near his property line, but now he's really into the model planes himself. Carries a bunch of CL and FF stuff (need a pound of rubber?).

rootbeard · Jul 08, 2004 08:02 AM

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Thanks for the tips guys.

I know when we went to Disney World one time that we got a book called " How to see the Park in a Day" or something like that. And it paid off. So I was hoping to get the best bang for my two days.

I am not sure if we will bring planes. I would like to fly and I know my boys will really want to fly after watching for a day. But I would think that the circles would be needed for practice and we would not want to impose. And it may be a little intimidating for a rookie like myself to fly among "Top Guns".

I hope to run into a few SSW friends.

Paul

I am a retread, - I did C/L in my youth and did not know what I was doing then other then having fun. And not much has changed.

phantomflier · Jul 08, 2004 04:50 PM

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Rootbeard:

Don't worry about flying with the "Top Guns". I'm an intermediate flier and the people I fly with are all top people who qualify top 20,10,5. They can see more that you're doing wrong in 1 flight than you will figure out in 1 year and usually are willing to help you if you ask.

If nothing else you will always be able to say "we flew with Ted, Paul, Billy, ..."

clflyer · Jul 08, 2004 05:45 PM

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I agree, bring your planes and fly.
I learned more at the first Nats I entered than I had in the previous years combined. I'm at my first Worlds as a spectator and am really impressed. Today I saw the best Stunt, Combat and Racing I have ever seen. I didn't make it over to the Speed circles, but intend to tomorrow.
Combat was really impressive. I'm used to seeing short matches that usually end in a crash. But today the majority of the matches went the full 5 minutes with some of the most intense flying I've ever seen.
Team Race was also wicked. Fast planes, close passes and fast pits. A good pit was usually shut down, land and grab the plane in less than 3/4 of a lap. Then refuel, restart and back up in about 3-5 seconds. TR is a no mistake event. The times are so close that if you blow anything, you are out.
Bill

Interested in C/L? Check out my site:
http://www.clflyer.com
Bill Calkins

Iskandar Taib · Jul 08, 2004 11:40 PM

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The Nats of yore (when it was still travelling around) was even more of an event, because everything took place in a week. If you stuck around a week, you could see everything from rubber powered free flight to Jet Speed. And since a bunch of competitors stayed in the dorms, you got to stay up late and yak with people doing all sorts of modelling. People would bring their planes to the lounge and work on them. These days, you'd need to stick around for a month to see everything.