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Randy Powell · Jul 08, 2004 10:17 PM

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Might as well ask someone that's there. Anybody at the Worlds know what happened today? It isn't posted on the information site yet.

Randy Powell · Jul 08, 2004 10:18 PM

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Oh, and does anyone have any pictures yet?

Mike Alimov · Jul 08, 2004 11:32 PM

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Day 3 brought the first score over 3000 (Han Xinping, if I'm not mistaken) and two more fatalities (planes, not people) due to very high winds.

P Walker · Jul 09, 2004 12:35 AM

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LAST EDITED ON Jul-09-04 AT 00:42 AM (CDT)
 
i am not there, but do know a little info. father is in 2nd place at the end of today. still to fly tomarow are mr. fancher and mr. werwage.

kristen

P Walker

GLBahrman · Jul 09, 2004 12:40 AM

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Thanks Kristen

Greg L. Bahrman

SRiese5283 · Jul 09, 2004 12:41 AM

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THANKS.......last time I talked to you, you had your foot in a cast.

Scott Riese

P Walker · Jul 09, 2004 12:45 AM

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>THANKS.......last time I talked to you, you had your foot in
>a cast.

you welcome everyone :]

yes sir. im not sure when that was..seeing as though i've had my feet in many casts.

kristen

P Walker

SRiese5283 · Jul 09, 2004 01:31 AM

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Roseburg.....when your DAD brought out the B-17 #2

Still got your tongue pierced ?

Scott Riese

Randy Powell · Jul 09, 2004 10:30 AM

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LAST EDITED ON Jul-09-04 AT 10:34 AM (CDT)
 
Man, Scott, you are just evil.

I notice that the Worlds site is still not updated for Day 3. Hmm...

SRiese5283 · Jul 09, 2004 11:10 AM

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She a good KID. I like her. Thanks for all the updates.

Scott(I got Photo's)Riese

Scott Riese

preston · Jul 09, 2004 11:21 AM

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>I notice that the Worlds site is still not updated for Day 3. Hmm...

Yes, I'm feeling miffed. Well, "spoiled" might be a better term,
after all the prompt updates.

Preston

Randy Powell · Jul 09, 2004 04:49 PM

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Hmmm, still nothing from yesterday or today. Hope the Worlds site is updated soon.

P Walker · Jul 09, 2004 07:10 PM

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LAST EDITED ON Jul-09-04 AT 07:15 PM (CDT)
 
Lightning delay after the first half of the finals, they will finish it tonight (Mr. Werwage is first to resume flying as i am talking to my mom on the phone). Juniors fly their 3 rounds tomarow morning, and remaining 15 senior fly after that.

good luck all!

(also, i asked why the worlds site may not have been updated and my mother said because they hadent finished round 2 untill today. hopefully it'll be updated today!)

kristen

P Walker

Steve Helmick · Jul 09, 2004 07:57 PM

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Too bad they aren't using the original two circle plan, huh? Dopey twits. Well, Kristen, has Danny Dirt mowed the lawn yet this week? Steve

Randy Powell · Jul 09, 2004 09:32 PM

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And here we are. Ted really burned one in.

First Round Finals

Pl-Cou--Name--------------Rnd1---Rnd2---Total-------Final
1--CHN Zhang, Wei--------2763.0 2987.5 2987.5-------3005.0
2--USA Fancher, Terry----2776.5 2998.5 2998.5-------3004.0
3--USA Walker, Paul------2813.0 2983.5 2983.5-------2994.0
4--FRA Delabarde, Serge--2892.5 2928.0 2928.0-------2991.0
5--NED De Jong, Henk-----2760.0 2940.5 2940.5-------2867.0
6--FRA Beringer, Gilbert-2673.5 2973.5 2973.5-------2856.5
7--JPN Yokoyama, Mitsuru-2788.5 2928.5 2928.5-------2758.0
8--FRA Beringer, Remi----2793.5 3025.5 3025.5
9--CHN Han, Xinping-------------3020.5 3020.5
10-USA Werwage, William--2861.0 2988.0 2988.0

Well, the spacing is perfect in the entry text, but apparently when it posts, the software kills the spaces and so is unable to maintain the formatting. So I tried adding the dashes, but it still screws it up. Gotta love proportional text. Sorry about that.

Baron · Jul 09, 2004 10:15 PM

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OK, either I can't add, or I don't understand the underlying methodology. Both of Ted's flights scored higher. Why second place?

Craig Beskow

P Walker · Jul 09, 2004 10:23 PM

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LAST EDITED ON Jul-09-04 AT 10:25 PM (CDT)
 
>OK, either I can't add, or I don't understand the underlying
>methodology. Both of Ted's flights scored higher. Why
>second place?

im not sure if i am correct. but let me try and help you out. they are currently flying the finals today, mr. fancher scored a 3004 and
Wei Zhang scored a 3005 hence placing mr. fancher in second place. they aren't going off any of the round one, or round two scores. those were just used to place 15 people into the finals. dunno if that helps or not?

kristen

P Walker

Baron · Jul 10, 2004 12:00 AM

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Makes a lot more sense now. Thanks

Craig Beskow

preston · Jul 09, 2004 10:25 PM

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Everyone has completed the two qualifying rounds.
Based on their high score from those first two flights,
15 people get into the final.

Currently, 7 people have made their 1st of 3 flights in the final.
Places right now are based on the final, so the current rankings
don't mean too much.

What does mean a lot is making the final,
and the home team is all there.

Preston

P Walker · Jul 09, 2004 09:36 PM

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>Too bad they aren't using the original two circle plan, huh?
>Dopey twits. Well, Kristen, has Danny Dirt mowed the lawn
>yet this week? Steve
>
>http://www.nwskyraiders.com/index.html

no, actually i did :] $$

kristen

P Walker

Brett Buck · Jul 09, 2004 10:30 PM

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>Lightning delay after the first half of the finals, they
>will finish it tonight (Mr. Werwage is first to resume
>flying as i am talking to my mom on the phone). Juniors fly
>their 3 rounds tomarow morning, and remaining 15 senior fly
>after that.
>
>good luck all!
>
>(also, i asked why the worlds site may not have been updated
>and my mother said because they hadent finished round 2
>untill today. hopefully it'll be updated today!)
>
>kristen

I can report that Mr. Werewage managed to avoid electrocution quite well. This was a very bad and dangerous situation - people's hair (not mine of course) was standing on end in the pits for half an hour before this, and there was very audible thunder for quite a while before this, too. What finally cinched it was a strike with 12 seconds delay between flash and noise - about 2 miles! Billy's flight was called off halfway through.

Once it got restarted, the scores just went up and up, and Remi' Berringer ended up in first with 3050, Xinping Han second with 3039 or thereabouts, and Yuri Yatsenko with something in the 3030 range. Last flight was Richard Kornmeyer of Germany, in near darkness. Thus ended a very frustrating round 1 of finals.

Juniors fly off tomorrow - the kid from the Czech repulic (whose name I unfortunately cant recall), Rob Gruber, and Anton Strakov. Then rounds 2 and 3 of Senior.

I won't comment further but let's just say any burning desire I might have had to fly international stunt contests is pretty well gone, and most anything you might have heard about it is at least qualitatively true. But the people are a heck of a lot of fun, and, aside from the results, it's been a pretty fun time all around.


Brett

DMoon · Jul 09, 2004 11:03 PM

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I ahve been talking to steve a few times a day and he says that it is weird how there are times next to each flier instead of an order. But he also says that it is really cool to see all of it. He says only US and OZ fly the pipe.

He also said that the flyers are really good and that there are virtually no engine troubles. It all just seems to click along. He says it isnt the fastest but it just seems to move along. All the people are great. Lots of cool stuff to see and many different approaches to flying stunt and they all seem to work pretty darn good.

Doug Moon

Max1998 · Jul 09, 2004 11:20 PM

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LAST EDITED ON Jul-09-04 AT 11:20 PM (CDT)
 
Hello Guys and Gals,you say that the top 15 make it into the finals?I see only 10 listed above.I hope it is the top 15 as I see are man Bruce made #13! Go Canada eh.Have you heard anything Duck?

Dennis Pedersen

Randy Powell · Jul 09, 2004 11:43 PM

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LAST EDITED ON Jul-10-04 AT 01:10 PM (CDT)
 
Dennis,

Sorry, I only posted the top ten. The other 5 are:

11 Richard Kornmeier Germany
12 Shoichiro Nogome Japan
13 Bruce Perry Canada (yea Bruce!)
14 Andriy Yatsenko Ukraine
15 (no listing)
16 is Yuriy Yatsenko from Ukraine if that means anything.

Edit: OK, now that I'm awake, there's a tie for 14th so no number 15.

14 Andriy Yatsenko Ukraine
14 Jiri Vejmola Czech

Randy Powell · Jul 09, 2004 11:46 PM

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Oops, forgot. The current team listings are:

1 USA
2 France
3 China
4 Japan
5 Ukraine
6 Canada
7 Russia
8 Great Britian
9 Italy
10 Germany

Not that it matters much at this point. But it makes for interesting study.

Max1998 · Jul 10, 2004 12:16 AM

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Thanks so much Randy for the info.Lets hope for some nice weather for tommorows flights.

Dennis Pedersen

duck · Jul 10, 2004 01:02 AM

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>Hello Guys and Gals,you say that the top 15 make it into the
>finals?I see only 10 listed above.I hope it is the top 15 as
>I see are man Bruce made #13! Go Canada eh.Have you heard
>anything Duck?


Hey All, Just got a call from Bruce Perry tonite from Muncie. He has had a weird week. Couple days ago his truck was rear-ended by a woman in the Muncie area. They (Bruce and Allanna) are OK but the truck suffered some bumper damage. Today he was given a pin (hat- type) and put it in his pocket. I think the back one where he keeps his towel for cleaning his lines as he goes to the handle before every flight. Dan, You probably know where this is going. Of course, Bruce starts his engine (we here in Canada also use pipes) and as Chris Cox is holding, Bruce reaches in the pocket for the towel and out pops the pin and lands where?...Yup, right through the wing panel. Call off the flight (attempt) and patch the wing and try again. This time all goes good and Bruce flies a great flight and the 13th place score. Merlin has some more war-wounds, but I'm sure Bruce will take it. So, way to go Bruce...... Saturday is top 15, so congrats to all the fliers as the conditions have been ever changing and tommorrow looks to be the same. Bruce also mentioned that fellow canadian Kim Doherty's skywrighter was one of the casualties at the contest. High winds, happened on the first loop of the clover. Thats all for now......

Rob Duckering....MAAC #14457

Brett Buck · Jul 10, 2004 07:44 AM

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>I ahve been talking to steve a few times a day and he says
>that it is weird how there are times next to each flier
>instead of an order. But he also says that it is really
>cool to see all of it. He says only US and OZ fly the pipe.
>

And Japan, Canada, South Africa, Brasil, and quite a few others. Japan has the trifecta - one 4-stroke, one Discovery, and one piped PA61. For instance, Loren from RSA is running a 46VF in a Trivial Pursuit. When Ted and I watched him fly in the wind on Thursday, I turned to him and asked "Why is it again that we don't fly those anymore?" since it was having no problem in the overhead 8 at 5.75 second laps.

BTW, I think only one Aussie flies a piped setup. I know that Joe Parisi is running a Saito 72. I didn't see PJ's airplane.

I would say that all of the models, properly trimmed, can fly well, proving the *design* and *engine choice* is far less important than commonly assumed. A good setup on any system is far better than a bad setup on any other system, even one that might be intrinsically superior. Additionally, any resemblence between, say, a Discovery, and an ST60, is strictly coincidental - completely different animals despite the fact that they are muffled 4-2 break motors.

Brett

Igor Burger · Jul 09, 2004 11:31 PM

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>>>the kid from the Czech repulic (whose name I unfortunately cant recall)<<<
It is Peter Durcak from Czech

One of those balsa dust clouds after crash was my only model before second flight.

the first photo shows my former model, those other two are some flyers ...

P Walker · Jul 09, 2004 11:58 PM

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LAST EDITED ON Jul-10-04 AT 00:00 AM (CDT)
 
aww poor airplane, sorry to see that.

yay father!! i can tell that stance apart from anyone else!!

also, yay for mr. werwage!!

kristen

P Walker

Paul van Dort · Jul 10, 2004 09:26 AM

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Great pictures, Igor!!

What happened to your plane? Did you step on it? Pilot error? or was the ground to high?

I'm really sorry to see the internal construction of your model, exposed in this way. No doubt a good story for the futur contests.

Take care!
Paul

Hofstadter's Law:
Everything takes longer than you think it will, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law

Igor Burger · Jul 21, 2004 06:01 AM

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>>>What happened to your plane? Did you step on it? Pilot error? or was the ground to high?<<<

Pilot error? No way! Never!!!

... just american ground jumped to my model! it was dirty atentate!

but seriously, it was in practice before my second official flight. I lost the line tension in hourglass and I went slowly down the wind to get it back, feeling it is standard situation which I ca easily handle. But right immediatelly after that I got another turbulent kick on upwind side and I was not able to react anymore. It was few meters over ground and I justt looked how my fuselage is turning to dust. So probably pilot error combined with bad luck, I had to run as quicly as possible. It would probably survive.

anyway, something was wrong, I saw too many crashes this time - and not only because of wind

Randy Powell · Jul 10, 2004 01:06 PM

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Sorry to see that Igor. Sounds as if the weather is pretty challenging.

PJ · Jul 21, 2004 05:34 AM

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Hey brett why didnt u look at my plane?

Wasnt going to bite.

I was running The new stalker 61 lite longstroke, on a "pipe"

In the war betweem "ground vs Aircraft" one is YET to lose