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2004 Nats Open Stunt Top Five

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Howard Rush · Jul 16, 2004 03:29 PM

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Standings after the Top 20 are:

1. Paul Walker
2. David Fitzgerald
3. Bill Werwage
4. Brett Buck
5. Bob Hunt

Tomorrow will be a fresh contest among these five. Today's standings won't count.

Bob Reeves · Jul 16, 2004 05:02 PM

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I'll bet Billy and Bob are having a ball, they have been close friends for quite some time.

cwmcmillin · Jul 16, 2004 05:07 PM

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Alright Brett,
You're a machine.
Chris...

Serge Krauss · Jul 16, 2004 05:17 PM

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Thanks, Howard!

Any chance of someone posting the order of the 6th - 20th?

Congratulations, Brett, on joining World Champions and team members in this elite group!

SK

Serge Krauss

Brett Buck · Jul 16, 2004 05:54 PM

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>Thanks, Howard!
>
>Any chance of someone posting the order of the 6th - 20th?
>
>Congratulations, Brett, on joining World Champions and team
>members in this elite group!
>

Let's see, all I have to do is beat guys with a combination of 19 National Championships, 5 W/C's, and innumerable team placings. No problem, me and my malfunctioning neurons and 7-year old airplane will take care of that right away.

Hunt and I were really twisting in the wind waiting for scores today. Paul thought it was really funny. It wasn't as bad as yesterday - I flew my definitive flight at about 8:45 and had to wait all day, until about 5:00, waiting for the sword fo Damocles to fall. At least today, it was over pretty quickly!

Brett

GLBahrman · Jul 16, 2004 07:11 PM

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Interesting that I don't see any of the International stars in the top five as I thought some of them stayed over for this event also. Or did I misunderstand. Or did they place further down??

Greg L. Bahrman

Brett Buck · Jul 16, 2004 07:31 PM

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LAST EDITED ON Jul-16-04 AT 07:41 PM (CDT)
 
>Interesting that I don't see any of the International stars
>in the top five as I thought some of them stayed over for
>this event also. Or did I misunderstand. Or did they place
>further down??

They placed further down. Andrii and Yuri Yatsenko were pretty well up the list (after some highly distracting non-airplane related issues). Kaz and Masuru Hiki (who is MUCH improved since the last time he came to the NATs) were in there, too. Hunt was really sweating out Andrii's score, since it was the last realistic chance to knock him out. I also noted that some of the airplanes that really worked well when it was windy, didn't work so well today. Whether that was just bad needles, or some setup issue, I couldn't tell.

I would also add that FAI Stunt and AMA stunt are significantly different breeds of cat, a fact of which I am even more keenly aware after having seen both at the highest levels back-to-back. FAI is more a matter of never making a noticable bobble on the three maneuvers where it matters, and it's almost irrelevant what you do on the others. AMA stunt means doing *all* the maneuvers well, and if you miss a bottom on your square 8, you can make up for it with a good takeoff or landing. That's how you wind up with a 4-time world champ (Han) who can't or doesn't do round loops very well. I think that's one reason the crowd at the W/C was getting so frustrated with the seemingly random scoring. It wasn't random. It just looked that way if you evaluated the pattern as a whole and ignored the K-factor.

So, no sneaky conspiracies against the "furriners" - just a different game which we have more practice at.

Brett

PS. The international fliers really made their presence known in qualifying. Several people who you would expect to be reliable qualifiers, even in this very deep field, didn't make it because they were beaten by the international guys. Heck, I was worried for most of the day. A few examples - Dan Banjock didn't make it, at least in part because guys who wouldn't normally have been there, Andrii and Bene Rodriguez, beat him. No complaints as far as I know, it was just a tough contest. And with only 5 people per circle and 30 competitors, the *seeding* was very critical. I thought my circle with Billy, Andrii, Alexander Shreck, RO, John Hill, me, and several others, was rough. But clearly it wasn't the toughest.

godzilla · Jul 17, 2004 09:48 AM

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AMA
>stunt means doing *all* the maneuvers well, and if you miss
>a bottom on your square 8, you can make up for it with a
>good takeoff or landing. That's how you wind up with a
>4-time world champ (Han) who can't or doesn't do round loops
>very well.

I agree. I think that is a very important point. By the way, way to go on the Top 5!

The City Smasher

Randy Powell · Jul 17, 2004 04:28 PM

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Brett,

Congradulations!!! It's been awhile coming and you certainly deserve it.

Proparc · Jul 16, 2004 07:33 PM

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Brett Buck taking care of Serious Bidness!! Don't be surprised if the next post reads "Brett Buck - 2004 United States National Stunt Champion."

"I don't know about this tuned pipe business. I practiced on that thing until my lips turned blue, and I still can't play a stinkin note."
"Homer J. Simpson"

Milton Graham\Proparc

Brett Buck · Jul 16, 2004 07:44 PM

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>Brett Buck taking care of Serious Bidness!! Don't be
>surprised if the next post reads "Brett Buck - 2004 United
>States National Stunt Champion."

I would expect that just as likely would be "California Man struck and killed by meteorite" is probably more likely. But I'll give it the old college try.

Brett

Steve Fitton · Jul 16, 2004 10:30 PM

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>
> I would expect that just as likely would be "California
>Man struck and killed by meteorite" is probably more likely.
>But I'll give it the old college try.
>
> Brett

That would certainly get you more publicity than the Walker Cup, at least under the "Tragic but Funny" section in the newspapers.


Meteor or not, good luck tomorrow.


Steve

Randy Powell · Jul 17, 2004 04:33 PM

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Brett,

You realize that you will now be forced to build a new ship to maintain your new prestige as one of the giants of stunt, right?

Jim Pollock · Jul 17, 2004 10:53 PM

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Randy,

Yes, I did tell Brett that he was in need of a new plane now that the Prime Infinity has one uped his....AND if he builds one without a foam wing someone needs to ensure that the spars are glued properly together! Rest in peace "Special Edition"! Myself I am going the other way. My Jett .61 will be sold and a PA .40 ultralight obtained. Derek has some plans for me to build from also. However, don't expect to see me at a contest anywhere but very locally for at least two years. I need to recouperate after the wicked winds of circle four blew my plane right out of the sky in the hourglass with the Jett .61 blazing away in a two stroke.... The plane had gone through worse wind on Wendsday O.K., but that was on circle two.

Jim Pollock, a victim of circle four capricious winds.

rsmiley · Jul 18, 2004 12:00 AM

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Brett,

Some short folks, most notably from Canada are telling me to get a new plane and chuck the profiles. I would be happy to take your plane off your hands after this contest. Maybe your magic touch might rub off on me. Keep at it. You are in atmospheric company, or should I say stratospheric or outer space.

Have fun and good luck.

Bob Smiley

Bob