Vinyl stick on

I got one of those vinyl stick ons of the little guy flying the plane that you can put on your whatever. I put mine on my truck with a lot of difficulty. Seems it did not want to stay put when I tried to lift the backing. I had to use a sharp item to hold down the corners or points whenever I got to one so it would not lift up. Acted like it did not have enough sticky stuff to hold it down. Maybe that is why today ( the second day with it on ) that the wind blew off part of it. There was no rain involved - it just never stuck good enough. I followed the installation instructions.

Maybe you should have put it on your "whatever" instead of your truck.

>Maybe you should have put it on your "whatever" instead of
>your truck.

But Ty, they are advertised as for use "on your car window". Is there a difference between my truck window and a car window?

There might be a residue of silicon or wax of some type on the window. Try amonia to remove it. Or stick it on a planes wing.

Ty,
The truck has yet to be waxed and I used Windex not once but twice before I did the installation. I was being as sure as I could that it would be absolutely clean due to the number of small areas of the design that had to stick.
You seem to come up with all the answers - I just wish they helped

LAST EDITED ON Aug-04-03 AT 10:23 PM (CDT)
 
Well, you and I have the same vinyl stick ons. We obtained them from different people, but they are made by the same person. ALL vehicles when going through dealer prep get washed and they all use lots of silicone in the wash. I have been in the repair, preparation, supply, instructor & maintenence side of the automotive world. 1954 to 1960 and 1980 thru 1997. So I know what I'm talking about here. Ammonia will remove the silicone, Windex will not. Go through any car wash and there is always some silicon in the rinse left over from a previous wax job and window washer fluid is the same for all practical purposes as windex and it too will not remove that silicon. Try ammonia. Also if the window/glass is too hot, the vinyl may not stick. The glass should be about 70 F. Warm, soapy water on the glass and the decal on the warm, soapy water, squegee out the soapy water. Mine went on and is still on. If this fails, go back to the person you obtained it from and get your money back.

LAST EDITED ON Aug-07-03 AT 08:53 AM (CDT)
 
>Well, you and I have the same vinyl stick ons. We obtained
>them from different people, but they are made by the same
>person. ALL vehicles when going through dealer prep get
>washed and they all use lots of silicone in the wash. I
>have been in the repair, preparation, supply, instructor &
>maintenence side of the automotive world. 1954 to 1960 and
>1980 thru 1997. So I know what I'm talking about here.
>Ammonia will remove the silicone, Windex will not. Go
>through any car wash and there is always some silicon in the
>rinse left over from a previous wax job and window washer
>fluid is the same for all practical purposes as windex and
>it too will not remove that silicon. Try ammonia. Also if
>the window/glass is too hot, the vinyl may not stick. The
>glass should be about 70 F. Warm, soapy water on the glass
>and the decal on the warm, soapy water, squegee out the
>soapy water. Mine went on and is still on. If this fails,
>go back to the person you obtained it from and get your
>money back.

Ditto Ty,
I installed one on my new car's glass and funny as it may be it rained 1/2 hr after installing it, and then I even went on a 14 hr one way road trip, I went through two storms as well as some high heat days when it didn't rain, and mine is still there

Bill try some prep sole wax and grease remover
that can be purchased over at NAPA auto parts
over on Glenbernie Rd.

and if you have no luck there I can sell you one from my stock

I don't believe it is a wax problem - because:
1)It is a 1996 truck so anything from the dealer should be gone
2)It has never been thru a commercial wash
3)I have always done the washing using only Ivory liquid dishwashing soap in my front yard
4) I have never waxed the truck or used any type of polish on it

I have put on this type of stick on before with no problems so can only deduce that the problem was with the stick on

It would seem that you are complaining an awful lot about a silly $6.00 stick on. Get a new one. You come on here looking for answers and then say you did everything right. Obviously not. Get a new sticker if it means that much.

Bill,

I have produced a number of the "C/L Pilot Graphic
you are refering to, here are my thoughts.

1. For best results the Graphic should be plotted on
a high performance vinyl (Gerber 225 HP Vinyl)
formulated by 3M for Gerber Scientific Products.

2. There are quite a few Application Tapes (Release Film)
on the market today I find the Transfer Rite Brand
to be a superior product.

3. Prior to application use Windex with Ammonia D.

If you are having a local Sign Shop produce this
graphic for you, next time ask for them to be produced
with the materials listed above.

Most Sign shops will understand what your asking for.

Best of Luck,

Ty it sounds like you and I suffer the same kind of work at least I did until I damaged my back lifting a p/up truck hood on on my own and you are 100% correct silicone is about the hardest thing to get rid of as most auto painters will attest to after they got fisheye in the paint even after using prepsol several times on the same place definately sounds like silicone or similar on the glass to me