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PT-19 Prototype (restart)

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builditright · May 20, 2008 02:59 PM

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Hi all,

I have restarted the PT-19 kit prototype.

After posting the first set of building pics., back in March I stopped to make the kits for the Imperial Ringmaster.

During that time I received some emails and had some phone conversations regarding being able to (moreso.. not being able to)
build the PT without a jig so here we are... I have set aside the first prototype and added tabs to the bottom of the ribs.
Now that everything has been recut, I have restarted building the (new) prototype.


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check out more on my website at: http://www.builtrightflyright.com/01_New_Future_Site/kits/PT19/Pgs/BldgDHPT19_00.htm

Please email all PT-19 inquires to: [email protected] and you must add a subject to the email or the email will not get delivered.

(Monday-Day 1)



Thank You and God Bless
Walter Umland
aka / builditright
visit my website at http://www.builtrightflyright.com
you can e-mail me at [email protected]

tony drago · May 20, 2008 05:26 PM

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Very nice feature. Are any/all of your future kits going to have this same feature on the rib tabs. Sure hope so.

bkruger · May 20, 2008 05:48 PM

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> Very nice feature. Are any/all of your future kits going to
>have this same feature on the rib tabs. Sure hope so.

Thanks, Tony. Just made my life a little more difficult...

Bob

DW · May 20, 2008 06:29 PM

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I relly like this, why hasnt anyone thought of doing this before?
Dwayne



Keep a handle on em!

Randy Ryan · May 20, 2008 07:07 PM

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>I relly like this, why hasnt anyone thought of doing this
>before?
>Dwayne
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>
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>Keep a handle on em!

Sure!!! Carl Goldberg!!


Randy Ryan <><
AMA 8500
SAM 36
BO all my own M's

DW · May 20, 2008 08:09 PM

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>>I relly like this, why hasnt anyone thought of doing
>this
>>before?
>>Dwayne
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>>Keep a handle on em!
>
>Sure!!! Carl Goldberg!!
>
>
>Randy Ryan <><
>AMA 8500
>SAM 36
>BO all my own M's

I was not aware of that!
Dwayne

Keep a handle on em!

Crash2much · May 20, 2008 09:17 PM

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Goldbergs Shoestring Stunter had those on 4 of the ribs.
Bill Morell
Ontario, California


Better to have it and not need it than it is to need it and not have it.

Randy Ryan · May 22, 2008 11:10 AM

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>Goldbergs Shoestring Stunter had those on 4 of the ribs.

Also the Buster, Cosmic Wind, Lil' Jumpin' Bean and some of their RC models with semi-symetrical wings. They got away with 4 ribs because their structures were simple. Of course that left you at the mercy of the straightness (or not) of the LE and TE. Still, it was a great idea.

By the way, the trade name was "Syma-Tru"

Randy Ryan <><
AMA 8500
SAM 36
BO all my own M's

builditright · May 21, 2008 03:11 PM

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check out more on my website at: http://www.builtrightflyright.com/01_New_Future_Site/kits/PT19/Pgs/BldgDHPT19_00.htm

Please email all PT-19 inquires to: [email protected] and you must add a subject to the email or the email will not get delivered.

(Tuesday-Day 2)



Thank You and God Bless
Walter Umland
aka / builditright
visit my website at http://www.builtrightflyright.com
you can e-mail me at [email protected]

Steve Helmick · May 21, 2008 10:55 PM

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WU...I'm a little surprised that you're webbing the TE before adding the top TE piece. I'd think that might be a warp waiting to happen. But I assume you normally do it this way, with fine results? Steve

PS: Still on the list for Champione's F-86, I am!?

Steve Helmick
Renton, Washington
USA

builditright · May 22, 2008 12:21 AM

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Today was a short day, just worked on the gear blocks and pre-shaped the LE sheeting by dampening and pinning it down.

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check out more on my website at: http://www.builtrightflyright.com/01_New_Future_Site/kits/PT19/Pgs/BldgDHPT19_00.htm

Please email all PT-19 inquires to: [email protected] and you must add a subject to the email or the email will not get delivered.

(Wednesday-Day 3)



Thank You and God Bless
Walter Umland
aka / builditright
visit my website at http://www.builtrightflyright.com
you can e-mail me at [email protected]

ama21835 · May 22, 2008 07:12 AM

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Remember how Midwest did it on the original?

They sliced a little piece off the bottom of each rib, so it lay flat on a board. Then you glue the little pieces back on when you can pick up the wing. Worked perfect for me. Capstrips & LE sheeting restore any loss of continuity.

builditright · May 23, 2008 04:36 PM

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Here's a little more progress on the PT-19...

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I rounded the edges of each cap strip before gluing them on.


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check out more on my website at: http://www.builtrightflyright.com/01_New_Future_Site/kits/PT19/Pgs/BldgDHPT19_00.htm

Please email all PT-19 inquires to: [email protected] and you must add a subject to the email or the email will not get delivered.

(Thurday-Day 4)



Thank You and God Bless
Walter Umland
aka / builditright
visit my website at http://www.builtrightflyright.com
you can e-mail me at [email protected]

builditright · May 26, 2008 12:55 PM

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Here's more progress on the PT-19...


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I need to just hinge the other flap, add the tip box then final sand and the wing will be done



check out more on my website at:
http://www.builtrightflyright.com/01_New_Future_Site/kits/PT19/Pgs/BldgDHPT19_00.htm

Please email all PT-19 inquires to:
[email protected] and you must add a subject to the
email or the email will not get delivered.


(Saturday + Sunday-Days 5+6)



Thank You and God Bless
Walter Umland
aka / builditright
visit my website at http://www.builtrightflyright.com
you can e-mail me at [email protected]

Allen Brickhaus · May 27, 2008 06:36 AM

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Sure looks straight to me. This is one of my all time favorites. I came into the hobby when the trio from Midwest was thrust on the market. I have only collected the trio of the Cougar, Panther and the PT-19. Love this thread.
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builditright · May 27, 2008 04:54 PM

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I started laying out the tail parts

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http://www.builtrightflyright.com/01_New_Future_Site/kits/PT19/Pgs/BldgDHPT19_00.htm

check out more on my website at: http://www.builtrightflyright.com/01_New_Future_Site/kits/PT19/Pgs/BldgDHPT19_00.htm

Please email all PT-19 inquires to: [email protected] and you must add a subject to the email or the email will not get delivered.

(Monday-7)



Thank You and God Bless
Walter Umland
aka / builditright
visit my website at http://www.builtrightflyright.com
you can e-mail me at [email protected]

builditright · May 28, 2008 01:43 PM

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Installing the "Optional" lucky boxes

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Next is the rudder...


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http://www.builtrightflyright.com/01_New_Future_Site/kits/PT19/Pgs/BldgDHPT19_00.htm



check out more on my website at: http://www.builtrightflyright.com/01_New_Future_Site/kits/PT19/Pgs/BldgDHPT19_00.htm

Please email all PT-19 inquires to: [email protected] and you must add a subject to the email or the email will not get delivered.



Thank You and God Bless
Walter Umland
aka / builditright
visit my website at http://www.builtrightflyright.com
you can e-mail me at [email protected]

subsonic · May 28, 2008 05:30 PM

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KOOL, KOOL, KOOL............Walter, any chance you could get interested in a F6F Hellcat???

Thanks for the pictures. Always educational.

Fly Safe, John
john dot delafosse at g mail dot com

builditright · May 31, 2008 10:39 AM

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check out more on my website at: http://www.builtrightflyright.com/01_New_Future_Site/kits/PT19/Pgs/BldgDHPT19_00.htm

Please email all PT-19 inquires to: [email protected] and you must add a subject to the email or the email will not get delivered.

(Friday-Day 9)



Thank You and God Bless
Walter Umland
aka / builditright
visit my website at http://www.builtrightflyright.com
you can e-mail me at [email protected]

builditright · Jun 01, 2008 12:07 PM

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check out more on my website at: http://www.builtrightflyright.com/01_New_Future_Site/kits/PT19/Pgs/BldgDHPT19_00.htm

Please email all PT-19 inquires to: [email protected] and you must add a subject to the email or the email will not get delivered.

(Saturday-Day 10)



Thank You and God Bless
Walter Umland
aka / builditright
visit my website at http://www.builtrightflyright.com
you can e-mail me at [email protected]

Crash2much · Jun 02, 2008 11:29 AM

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Looking perfect as always Walter! Will be good to see it when you get it finished.
Bill Morell
Ontario, California


Better to have it and not need it than it is to need it and not have it.

builditright · Jun 02, 2008 03:33 PM

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check out more on my website at: http://www.builtrightflyright.com/01_New_Future_Site/kits/PT19/Pgs/BldgDHPT19_00.htm

Please email all PT-19 inquires to: [email protected] and you must add a subject to the email or the email will not get delivered.

(Sunday-Day 11)






Thank You and God Bless
Walter Umland
aka / builditright
visit my website at http://www.builtrightflyright.com
you can e-mail me at [email protected]

builditright · Jun 03, 2008 11:06 AM

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check out more on my website at: http://www.builtrightflyright.com/01_New_Future_Site/kits/PT19/Pgs/BldgDHPT19_00.htm

Please email all PT-19 inquires to: [email protected] and you must add a subject to the email or the email will not get delivered.

(Monday-Day 12)






Thank You and God Bless
Walter Umland
aka / builditright
visit my website at http://www.builtrightflyright.com
you can e-mail me at [email protected]

builditright · Jun 04, 2008 11:55 AM

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okay I put her back to bed for the night

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check out more on my website at: http://www.builtrightflyright.com/01_New_Future_Site/kits/PT19/Pgs/BldgDHPT19_00.htm

Please email all PT-19 inquires to: [email protected] and you must add a subject to the email or the email will not get delivered.

(Tuesday-Day 13)




Thank You and God Bless
Walter Umland
aka / builditright
visit my website at http://www.builtrightflyright.com
you can e-mail me at [email protected]

8866 · Jun 04, 2008 02:04 PM

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Walter:

This is looking Great as always. My name is on the list. Just let me know where and when to send the money!!

Dennis Coleman

Randy Ryan · Jun 04, 2008 10:05 PM

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Outstanding Walt, as usual.

Randy Ryan <><
AMA 8500
SAM 36
BO all my own M's

builditright · Jun 06, 2008 12:26 AM

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check out more on my website at: http://www.builtrightflyright.com/01_New_Future_Site/kits/PT19/Pgs/BldgDHPT19_00.htm

Please email all PT-19 inquires to: [email protected] and you must add a subject to the email or the email will not get delivered.

(Thursday-Day 14)





Thank You and God Bless
Walter Umland
aka / builditright
visit my website at http://www.builtrightflyright.com
you can e-mail me at [email protected]

Al Rabe · Jun 06, 2008 08:55 AM

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Walter,

You have me worried. Sanding the inside of hollowed blocks may be a clear sign of OCD (obsessive compulsive disorder).

Al

Jim Pollock · Jun 06, 2008 03:20 PM

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Al,

He's doing it the Warden way!

Jim Pollock

gmflying · Jun 06, 2008 04:10 PM

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>Walter,
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>You have me worried. Sanding the inside of hollowed blocks
>may be a clear sign of OCD (obsessive compulsive disorder).
>
>Al


Al:
You mean you don't sand the inside!!!!!!!!!
Gene

Cowboystunt1 · Jun 06, 2008 04:35 PM

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Well...
I don't think Al hollows too many blocks. Most of his construction is done the hard way (stronger) with built up sheeted surfaces on everything.
However given Al's Obsessive Compulsive nature I think his comment was a little "tongue in cheek".
Incidentally even I sand the inside of blocks and I'm not nearly the meticulous builder that Walter is.
One of the Stunt Champions of the past (who shall remain nameless) used to paint, rub out, and wax the inside of cowlings etc.
I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Randy Powell does that...Talk about Obsessive Compulsive......Uhhh Hi Randy.

Randy C

PS: I'm not picking on you Gene!!

builditright · Jun 06, 2008 04:56 PM

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I think we all have a little bit OCD in us..
and the good news is...
the whole plane in the bones (taped together) weighs only 22 3/4 ounces.

B.T.W. no offense taken



Thank You and God Bless
Walter Umland
aka / builditright
visit my website at http://www.builtrightflyright.com
you can e-mail me at [email protected]

Aerowrench · Jun 06, 2008 09:04 PM

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What are you using to hollow out the blocks?

I noticed a Dremel 1/2" drum in the background- been there, with clogged lungs and a dusty room as a result.
Are you using a sanding table or shop-vac?

Beautiful work!
-Doug

builditright · Jun 29, 2008 04:20 AM

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Okay guys I had a lot of other things that took me away from the PT for a while but here's days 15 thru 18.

I have three coats of clear on the Wing, Flaps, Stab, Elev's and the Rudder.

Controls are in and the weight shown is with the eng., tank, wheels, wheel collars, muffler and a prop

All the photos can be viewed on my website at: http://www.builtrightflyright.com

or to go directly to the building photos http://www.builtrightflyright.com/01_New_Future_Site/kits/PT19/Pgs/BldgDHPT19_00.htm


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Thank You and God Bless
Walter Umland
aka / builditright
visit my website at http://www.builtrightflyright.com
you can e-mail me at [email protected]