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Bill Gruby · Jun 09, 2008 08:43 AM

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Info requested on this rare bird built by Ted Fancher. All I have is a small picture from "Model Aviation" (April 1986 page 65) All that tells me is that it is "Quadra" powered. Did it fly? What were the specs.? Is it still around. Any and all info will be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

"Billy G"

Ted Fancher · Jun 09, 2008 09:41 AM

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> Info requested on this rare bird built by Ted Fancher. All I
>have is a small picture from "Model Aviation" (April
>1986 page 65) All that tells me is that it is
>"Quadra" powered. Did it fly? What were the specs.?
>Is it still around. Any and all info will be greatly
>appreciated. Thank you.
>
> "Billy G"

Hi Bill,

There must be a mix-up somewhere. Although I designed a number of "-tation" airplanes (The Citation, a series of Excitations, the Imitation and the Intimidation) I never did a Maximation. Never owned a Quadra either.

I'd be interested in seeing the picture if you can figure out how to scan and post it though.

Ted Fancher

Bill Gruby · Jun 09, 2008 09:52 AM

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Hello Ted:

I was told elsewhere that you didn't do it also Ted. But the picture says different, this thing looks like it has an 8 foot wingspan. LOL I will try to figure out how to post it. If I can't PM me an address and I will send a copy to you. I gotta tell ya, this thing is awesome. The caption reads:

Fancher throws down the gauntlet: "You ST .60 wimps had better watch out!" Ted is shown with the prototype of his 1986 Maximation. Power is a Quadra. (The pulses of the C/L Contest Board will quicken when they see this one.)

"Billy G"

mkedave · Jun 09, 2008 10:06 AM

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UM the April issue.....


Just a sport flier
Dave Siegler
AMA 720731

Bill Gruby · Jun 09, 2008 10:11 AM

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Hi Dave;

Yes April 1986 Model Aviation. On the cover is the R/C Playmate. Ya know Dave I never gave April Fools Day a thought. LOL It sure looks real.

"Billy G"

Randy Powell · Jun 09, 2008 11:04 AM

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I remember that picture! Seems like it was Ted holding some RC Quarter scale or something. Can't remember exactly.

gcb · Jun 09, 2008 11:47 AM

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Here is the pic. Hope it's OK, had to use a lot of compression to get it under 50K.

BTW, for you younger guys, a QUADRA was a converted chain saw engine set up for model use. Sort of "first generation" of the larger engines.


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LNeumann · Jun 09, 2008 12:34 PM

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>Here is the pic. Hope it's OK, had to use a lot of
>compression to get it under 50K.
>
>BTW, for you younger guys, a QUADRA was a converted chain saw
>engine set up for model use. Sort of "first
>generation" of the larger engines.
>
>
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>


It came out OK, but you didn't use compression, you used reduction. You can get a black and white picture up in 800 x 600 without a lot of compression at all. We are still having trouble explaining the difference between compression and size reduction, so you aren't alone. Maybe we need a tutoral on it.
Leonard Neumann
Indianapolis, Indiana, USA

Bill Gruby · Jun 09, 2008 12:44 PM

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Thanks everyone involved in getting that picture posted. I still think it's awesome. LOL

"Billy G"

dennis · Jun 09, 2008 01:21 PM

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Oh for the days when you could buy a 2 cu in motor for $89.95 from Balsa USA no less.Used a lot of them till I started wanting more power and started a 15 year ride in large scale models.
Dennis

Edis... what else....spelling

Uncle Mikey · Jun 09, 2008 06:37 PM

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We all know that couldn't possibly be "the" Ted Fancher since his primary interest centers only on RC electric ARF park flyers.

Mike Keville

Bruce H · Jun 09, 2008 07:37 PM

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I just thought he pulled a Shareen! Good post! I do remember when the quadra came out. It did change the R/C world to the point the AMA had to limit weight for insurance.
Poor Shareen, this phrase is starting to stick!

Have fun, Bruce

Aerowrench · Jun 09, 2008 07:25 PM

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>snip<
>We are still having
>trouble explaining the difference between compression and size
>reduction, so you aren't alone. Maybe we need a tutoral on
>it.

I'd be interested! What programs are you using to "compress" a pic?
-Doug

robertc · Jun 11, 2008 09:22 AM

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Anything saved as a jpeg is compressed. Another popular format to save that is not compressed is a tiff (tagged image file format) This is a lossless format. Compare a tiff to a jpeg and you can see that the jpeg can be as much as 1/20 the size of a tiff - through compression.
Robert Compton

gcb · Jun 12, 2008 09:39 AM

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It came out OK, but you didn't use compression, you used reduction. You can get a black and white picture up in 800 x 600 without a lot of compression at all. We are still having trouble explaining the difference between compression and size reduction, so you aren't alone. Maybe we need a tutoral on it.

Leonard,

Perhaps that would be a good idea. For this photo, I scanned the entire page as JPG and cropped to the pic shown. It was over 200K at 72 dpi so I changed the resolution th 45 dpi to get it under 50K. Any less resolution and you could see the pixels.

I did not have to resize because the cropped portion was already less than 800. For most pics, after cropping I set the max dimension to 800 or less, then decrease the resolution to get it under 50K.

True, JPG itself is a form of compression so perhaps I used the wrong terminology.

Thanks for the correction.

George

Ted Fancher · Jun 09, 2008 07:53 PM

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>Here is the pic. Hope it's OK, had to use a lot of
>compression to get it under 50K.
>
>BTW, for you younger guys, a QUADRA was a converted chain saw
>engine set up for model use. Sort of "first
>generation" of the larger engines.
>
>
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>

AHA! The light bulb comes on!

Yup, that is me but it isn't my airplane. My darn memory has blanked out on the builder but there might be some info in the column. The airplane is a twice size Sig Banshee with, as noted, a Quadra for power.

Ted Fancher

p.s. While looking through the mags I saw another -(t)ation, the Celebration.

Proparc · Jun 09, 2008 08:45 PM

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>Yup, that is me but it isn't my airplane. My darn memory has
>blanked out on the builder but there might be some info in the
>column.

Sorry Ted I don't believe you. The sooner you come clean with what appears to be a HORRIFIC VIOLATION of the P40 rules, the better it will be for all parties concern.

I had heard about some of the "loose" activities going on in the Norcal stunt scene but, until this picture, I didn't know things had gotten that bad.
Milton Graham\Proparc

Ted Fancher · Jun 09, 2008 09:50 PM

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>>>[photo not recovered: 29234.jpg]
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>>Yup, that is me but it isn't my airplane. My darn memory
>has
>>blanked out on the builder but there might be some info in
>the
>>column.
>
>Sorry Ted I don't believe you. The sooner you come clean with
>what appears to be a HORRIFIC VIOLATION of the P40 rules, the
>better it will be for all parties concern.
>
>I had heard about some of the "loose" activities
>going on in the Norcal stunt scene but, until this picture, I
>didn't know things had gotten that bad.


Ah, sorry, Milton.

You gotta check the dates and the stunt history encyclopedia. Prior to May, 1986 the event was known as Profile "Quad", as in "four". Thus, at the time this bountiful beauty ran roughshod over the competition it was entirely legal.

Only later did the "wimp legislators" succumb to the whiny demands of the prissy little "40% of a single measly cubic inch, decaf, skinny latte" crowd. Turns out they were afraid the gas/oil mixture would soil their cucumber sandwiches.

Stunt has never been the same since.

Ted "Quadriceps" Fancher

wackydaddy1 · Jun 10, 2008 12:23 PM

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Just like a lot of other things that have been deemed politically or
otherwise incorrect.
Wackydaddy
BGM

Bill Gruby · Jun 10, 2008 02:47 PM

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BRING BACK THE PROFILE QUAD EVENT, I can do it. LOL

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Ted Fancher · Jun 10, 2008 02:52 PM

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>BRING BACK THE PROFILE QUAD EVENT, I can do it. LOL
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YOU DA GORILLA!

Ted Fancher · Jun 10, 2008 02:53 PM

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>Just like a lot of other things that have been deemed
>politically or
>otherwise incorrect.
>Wackydaddy

Er, uh, Wackydaddy. Calm yourself. It was a joke!

Ted

Cowboystunt1 · Jun 10, 2008 03:00 PM

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Whew!!!!....
Talk about politically incorrect!

Randy

Phil Hawkins · Jun 10, 2008 10:43 PM

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Double the size Banshee???

Hmmm...note to self, enlarge Banshee plans for a 60 size...
Phil

robcostido · Jun 11, 2008 12:18 PM

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Sorry Bill! I had to post a better picture of the "beast". Ringmasters rock!

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Rob Costido

Bill Gruby · Jun 12, 2008 10:41 AM

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Bob;

No apology nacassary, I don't know how to make the little pictures bigger. I glad you did. We took this wing to Brodaks with us yesterday, instant success. Windy went nuts and filmed it for about 5 minutes. John Brodak loved it. We were even asked if we were gonna kit it.

To add to its size it is 1638 sq. in. without the tips. 22 in. root. and 17 in. at the tip. 85 in span. It will NOT be a profile. Someone asked me why, I just said WHY NOT. Stand by Bob, I will send you a few pics as we go along and you can post them for me.

"Billy G"

robcostido · Jun 12, 2008 10:59 AM

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>Bob;
>
> No apology nacassary, I don't know how to make the little
>pictures bigger. I glad you did. We took this wing to Brodaks
>with us yesterday, instant success. Windy went nuts and filmed
>it for about 5 minutes. John Brodak loved it. We were even
>asked if we were gonna kit it.
>
> To add to its size it is 1638 sq. in. without the tips. 22
>in. root. and 17 in. at the tip. 85 in span. It will NOT be a
>profile. Someone asked me why, I just said WHY NOT. Stand by
>Bob, I will send you a few pics as we go along and you can
>post them for me.
>
> "Billy G"

Bill, Regarding the pics...I just use Yahoo groups to do all the work. (c/l flying fourum) You save them to your photo album which yahoo will compress and then just resave to your puter. Easy!
Rob Costido

Garf · Jun 12, 2008 12:41 PM

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I use Irfanview.

Larry Cunningham · Jun 12, 2008 12:59 PM

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I also recommend Irfanview, which I switched to exclusively from LView Pro. It also has a wonderful thumbnail viewer function that is instant and superior for quick looks at directories with a large number of graphic files.

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"It is human nature to think wisely and act in an absurd fashion." -Anatole France

Bruce H · Jun 12, 2008 01:12 PM

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What does irfanview cost?


Thanks, Bruce

DennisV · Jun 17, 2008 09:55 AM

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> What does irfanview cost?
>Thanks, Bruce

Bruce,
It is free for non-commercial use. It is available as a free download at:

http://www.irfanview.com/

DennisV