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Need 1/2A cox shims and glow plug for grandkids to fly.

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rsmiley · Jun 11, 2008 05:38 PM

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my six grandkids are almost finished each building a 1/2 A ambush plane. They are having a ball doing it. I have prepared seven cox engines, baby bees, black widows etc.. We have a need for 6 head shims to reduce the compression and avoid detonation. We also need two low compression heads for the same reason.

I was told that if when flipping by hand to start the motor fires back and forth between compression during the prime, the compression is too great and must be reduced, else you will ruin the motor.

If you have any of these parts and/or know where thay can be obtained; please respond.

The plan is to train the dads to start the motors, have the dads teach the kids to start their motors then we go on a big family vacation and start, fly, crash, glue, start, fly, crash etc. and have fun.

Thanks for your help.

Bob Smiley
[email protected]


Bob



Bob

Pinecone · Jun 11, 2008 07:59 PM

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www.kittingittogether.com

They carry shims. Also Galbreath conversion heads that use Nelson plugs.
Terry Carraway
AMA 47402

Aeromaniacs · Jun 11, 2008 09:25 PM

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Hi Bob,
What head are you using on your Cox engine? Are you using the standard Cox Head. The standard Cox head should not require more that one shim. How mucn nitro are you using.

Alternative head is the "911-049 MECOA plug adapter" head from Mecoa.com. It allows you to use a standard plug.






Heman Lee
Alameda Aer-O-Nuts
Woodland/Davis Aeromodelers
www.aeromaniacs.com

rsmiley · Jun 11, 2008 10:18 PM

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Heman,

Two motors have the high compression head which needs to be changed out. They may be ok with one shim but you do not know until you run them. They may need to be decompressed with a standard and perhaps a shim or two. Burt Brokow told me you do not know how many shims are needed untilyou run them. The fuel used is 23% 50/50 blend with 10% Nitro Brodak fuel. The other motors have standard heads and one of the motors has a piston hitting the head even with one shim, hence the need for possiblly several shims.

Bob
Bob

colinw · Jun 12, 2008 02:11 AM

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IMHO Cox reed valve engines with one shim and a standard head are fairly well bullet proof on 15% nitro / 20% oil (Castor or 50/50 with castor/synthetic) fuel, PROVIDED everything is clean (reed valve, needle, etc.).

There's plenty of purveyors of Cox bits on eBay, or try this store in California (go to Engines then click on Parts)
http://www.selecthobbies.com

As for props - I've tried a variety of props on my Cox reedies and the two stand out performers (from my perspective, with my models) are the APC 5.7x3 and the black Cox 6x3 "rubber ducky". When I was a kid I used to get good flights with a white Tornado 5x4 as well. The black 6x3 will stand up to the rigours of use on a trainer far better than the APC 'though, and is less prone to cutting little fingers.

cheers,
Colin
Colin Weaver
Brisbane, Australia
See my YouTube vidoes at http://www.youtube.com/user/colingw
and my models and blog at http://colingw.rcuniverse.com

buildAndFly · Jun 12, 2008 06:46 AM

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Another option for parts is to just buy entire "Sure Start" engines directly from Cox for only $7 each. Or you can pay a little more from the countless people reselling them on ebay.

http://www.coxmodels.com/prodinfo.asp?number=008901

Jim

mkedave · Jun 12, 2008 08:31 AM

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The shims from a Norvel fit this engine too. I just bought a bunch from Lite machines (heli) on closeout. You could try them.


Just a sport flier
Dave Siegler
AMA 720731

Aeromaniacs · Jun 12, 2008 09:34 AM

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>The shims from a Norvel fit this engine too. I just bought a
>bunch from Lite machines (heli) on closeout. You could try
>them.
>
>
>Just a sport flier
>Dave Siegler
>AMA 720731


What is the part number? Is it the Vmax6 Gasket?
Heman Lee
Alameda Aer-O-Nuts
Woodland/Davis Aeromodelers
www.aeromaniacs.com

mkedave · Jun 12, 2008 10:46 AM

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I don't know here at work I would suggest you just call them, you will get a better deal on shipping
Just a sport flier
Dave Siegler
AMA 720731

rnj10 · Jun 12, 2008 05:13 PM

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Bob - e-mail your address to me at - rnj10 at earthlink dot net - and I will put 12 of them in an envelope and send them to you.
Bob Jones

dirtydan · Jun 12, 2008 07:24 PM

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Bob,

I can supply all you can use; leftovers from my days of importing the VA .049. I even have them in .001 and .002 thicknesses, believe it or not.

Dan

Aeromaniacs · Jun 13, 2008 04:21 PM

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>Bob,
>
>I can supply all you can use; leftovers from my days of
>importing the VA .049. I even have them in .001 and .002
>thicknesses, believe it or not.
>
>Dan
>
How many can you spare? Can I get 100 of each?

Heman Lee
Alameda Aer-O-Nuts
Woodland/Davis Aeromodelers
www.aeromaniacs.com

dirtydan · Jun 13, 2008 07:20 PM

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>>Bob,
>>
>>I can supply all you can use; leftovers from my days of
>>importing the VA .049. I even have them in .001 and .002
>>thicknesses, believe it or not.
>>
>>Dan
>>
>How many can you spare? Can I get 100 of each?
>
>

Thinking again about this, while I once had lots and lots of .005 shims from Cox I am pretty sure today's stash is only strong enough to supply Bob's needs as well as those of my own. Got a grandurchin building--very slowly!--the Jim Cameron-designed repro of the Fire Baby...

Of the .001 and .002 shims there are no doubt hundreds of the things in my shop. But when I hear a request for 100 of each, I smell "resale" in your request so they won't be free!

You may contact me at dlr 111845 at yahoo dot com

Dan

Aeromaniacs · Jun 13, 2008 09:19 PM

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Dan,
I need them to share with flyer in are annual Musciano Event in ALameda. Give me a price for 100.

Heman Lee
Alameda Aer-O-Nuts
Woodland/Davis Aeromodelers
www.aeromaniacs.com

dirtydan · Jun 16, 2008 07:51 PM

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>Dan,
>I need them to share with flyer in are annual Musciano Event
>in ALameda. Give me a price for 100.
>
>

Please contact me via e-mail, as suggested upstream a bit.

Dan


rsmiley · Jun 14, 2008 05:12 AM

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Bob,

You are a real sport to do this.

My e-mail is [email protected]

address is

11500 NE Skyward Loop
Kingston, WA 98346

360-297-0596 home/fax
360-731-0269 cell

Father's day everyone comes over and we will
samd the models
attach the elevator
construct the leadouts and pushrod
drill for mounting the motor
dust spray one color coat
spray a wet clear ooat

Later I will spray the final clear coat.

THEN the dads and kids will assemble the planes, I will then teach the dads how to whack their fingers and tune the engine.

Then we will teach the kids the same and go out and

start,fly, crash, glue, start, fly, crash glue etc.

It will be fun.

Bob
Bob