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HAVE OS-46LA NOW I NEED A PLANE...

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WINGWALK · Mar 09, 2004 03:09 PM

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Ok guy's I have an OS-46LA and was wondering what Profile plane kits were out there, besides the Cardinal and Pathfinder, that I could use it on? Looking for something different but will still fly and build well. OK.....HIT ME!!!


Kirk

shholt · Mar 09, 2004 03:15 PM

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Brodak P-40B. Larger than their other warbirds with a very thick wing.
Steve


The older I get, the better I used to fly!

Steve Helmick · Mar 09, 2004 03:22 PM

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"Forerunner" from Bear in Arkansas. Look for his post in the Classifieds, a really good flying model designed by Tom Farmer. The UHP Fancher "Imitation". Walter U's Mathis Excalibur (it doesn't really need that much power, but it would work pretty well). Steve

http://www.nwskyraiders.com/index.html
Steve Helmick
Renton, Washington
USA

MikeC · Mar 12, 2004 06:32 PM

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I'll second that Steve. I have looked at the Brodak F40B Warhawk kit. Looking at this airplane from the prints should be enough to make you want to run out and buy one. I believe with a little work, this airplane should build up very light. The wing has a nice thick airfoil, large square inch wing and the fuse is totally built up, like a Tom Morris profile Cavalier.

This is a definite stunter that will have the look of a fighter.

This will be my next purchase and it will carry my LA46. This should be a killer combo.

Mike Clark
"Chance Favors The More Prepaired Person"

zedad71 · Apr 07, 2008 12:06 PM

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Mike, heed the previous posts about the P-40 dihedral, it makes a big difference and is simple to do
Mark Scarborough
After years of running round in circles at the Rat Race Now I run around in circles for fun, go figure

zedad71 · Apr 07, 2008 12:12 PM

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Leo,,
dagnabbit, you did it again, dredging up threads from the past,, lol,, bet this guy already built flew and wore out his plane for the LA lol
Mark Scarborough
After years of running round in circles at the Rat Race Now I run around in circles for fun, go figure

N42222 · Mar 09, 2004 03:20 PM

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Might try Dick Mathis' Excalibur. And while I've got you here it occurs to me that you may know John Corradi (Waco UPF7). If so tell him Hi for me. Thanks,

WINGWALK · Mar 09, 2004 03:23 PM

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I will be seeing John this weekend If I don't go to NJ. I will be doing some acro training with him in the Waco. He said he wants to bone up some for the season. His a great guy, I'll tell him HI for ya.

Kirk

Crist Rigotti · Mar 09, 2004 05:29 PM

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>Might try Dick Mathis' Excalibur. And while I've got you
>here it occurs to me that you may know John Corradi (Waco
>UPF7). If so tell him Hi for me. Thanks,

Dale has a great idea. It also qualifies for Classic. It is almost 600 squares and the 46 would be perfect.
Crist Rigotti
"A driver trying to be a pilot."
http://www.clguy.com

mcm · Mar 09, 2004 04:40 PM

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Mine worked great on a Forerunner. Great flying plane, too.

bhadley0 · Mar 09, 2004 06:10 PM

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Get a Brodak Pathfinder. Get a Brodak Pathfinder. Get a Brodak Pathfinder... Did I make myself clear???
The LA 46 and the Pathfinder were MADE for each other. The Pathfinder is quite possibly one of the best flying profiles ever designed. Easy to build too. It flies like a real hi-end modern stunter and you wont be dissapointed. Others on this forum will
Brian

WINGWALK · Mar 09, 2004 06:12 PM

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Ok, I think I see your point, but what do you think of the Pathfinder?

Kirk

Bill Little · Mar 10, 2004 03:45 AM

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Ok Kirk,
Come on down here, and we'll cut out TWO planes. A USA-1 and a PROFILE Super Ares for the OS 46LA! Couldn't get a better plane for that engine. Really.
I'll get you a materials list ready.
Bill <><

Just an Old Advanced flyer.
Big Bear <><
Character: It's what you do when no one else is watching.

grzly23 · Mar 10, 2004 04:23 AM

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>Ok guy's I have an OS-46LA and was wondering what Profile
>plane kits were out there, besides the Cardinal and
>Pathfinder, that I could use it on? Looking for something
>different but will still fly and build well. OK.....HIT
>ME!!!
>
>
>Kirk
Kirk,

The Brodak Profile Cardinal is your best bet. It is a proven winner and easy to fly. Or you can try what I am building now; a 116% Fancherized Twister. I am going to use the LA46 that the club gave me for Christmas. See you Thursday night at Virginia HobbySport.
Tom McClain

Jim Pollock · Mar 10, 2004 04:40 AM

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well now Kirk,

A lot goes on while I'm in the motel room asleep! My idea - get a Nobler Wing Kit or an old "straight" Nobler wing from someone and go to town and design your own profile plane. It can be done you know! As long as you don't get too far off standard convention it will fly just fine.

Jim Pollock The Joker
Jim Pollock

linnix · Mar 15, 2004 02:46 AM

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Hey, I'll vote for the profile cardinal...I built one lightly modified with the Tom Morris Lincoln log wing technique...a great way to build a wing by the way..anyway flew it for the first time last week and it is simply amazing...never had a plane that flew so smoothly...tracks better than anything I've ever had and I haven't even begun to trim it yet. It was a bit windy that day and I also flew my Nobler which I thought flew pretty good....no contest...anyway the Cardinal is an awesome flying plane and very easy to build. The LA46 is also perfect for it.

Currell · Mar 15, 2004 02:58 AM

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Brodak LAGG-3. More squares than the other B. Warbirds fleet.

Currell

Currell · Mar 15, 2004 03:05 AM

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I checked the Brodak site. The P-40B does in fact have a larger wing vs. the LaGG, 560 vs 540 squares. The LaGG does have the greater span, 55" vs 53.25". Both could handle the .46, although this would be more than sufficient power.

At Toledo last year, when GP intro'ed the ARF Nobler, I recall an OS .46 LA. Has anyone out there actually used this combo?

Currell

V12 · Mar 15, 2004 04:53 AM

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Hey, Kirk - I have and ARF Cardinal that has a few minor dings in it - you can have it if you want. Should fly fine with the LA .46.
Bob Z

Ron King · Mar 15, 2004 01:39 PM

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There's a real problem with the Brodak site and the actual kit.

You look at the site and it tells you the LaGG-3 has a 55 inch wingspan and 540 squares. Not too bad. BUT --- you pick up the kit box and it says the plane inside is the same 48"/480 square inch wing as the other Brodak warbirds. I do not know which is the correct information, but I don't want to buy the kit and get the small wing.

The P40B is a bigger airplane. It looks like Pat Johnson designed it and it's very close to his full-bodied P40K kit that RSM carries.

There are a number of discrepancies in the Brodak catalog that should be corrected.

Anyway - between the two, the P40B would be a better choice for Kirk, but I have already told him to build a Cardinal


Ron

"Amateurs practice until they get it right. Pros practice until they cannot get it wrong."

WINGWALK · Mar 15, 2004 01:58 PM

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And the word came down from above to inlighten the wondering lost soul. The word was "Build a Cardinal" and ye shall reap the rewards of those who have gone before. So, with those words he traveled far (Springfield Va to Va Hobbysports) and found the riches for which he searched. I now stand before my alter (workbench) and come closer to the promise land as I discard the evil that is known as weight. Ok, Ok, I figured what the heck...Henry at Va Hobbysports had a kit. I'll build it and enjoy the fact that so many people can give me all the good tips for their experience.

Besides...Ron King told me to!!!!


Kirk

gtrbaby · Mar 15, 2004 02:23 PM

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Build it. you'll love it.
I took mine out for the first time LAST weekend and put 10 or so flights on it. BEEEEAAAAUTIFUL. that is all I have to say about that.


In the battle of airplane V ground, the ground is yet to lose

linnix · Mar 15, 2004 05:21 PM

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yes!

Build it straight...glass the fusalage..keep it reasonable on weight and you will have a GREAT flying model!

Jim Pollock · Mar 15, 2004 05:45 PM

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Yea Kirk,

Build it opposite of how Clayton built his and maybe it will turn out lighter than his. This means don't cover the fuse or tail feathers with leaky coat! Wing O.K., but be sure to seal up the joint between the leaky coat and paint real well!


Jim Pollock }>
Jim Pollock

Ron King · Mar 16, 2004 03:09 AM

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Man, you put me on the spot with that comment.

Let's give the credit where it is due: I told you to build a Cardinal because I've seen the way they fly. Plus Windy, Clayton, and Dirty Dan have told me to build a Cardinal. Every one of those guys is far better than I will ever hope to be in CLPA. I also look at John Lindburg and Chris Jackson - their Cardinals also fly very well.

I would follow the articles in Stunt News and glass the fuse like we did our RC ships.

You can use the SV-22 and Chevelle as "Practise Planes" while you are working on the Cardinal :7 :7 :7


Ron

"Amateurs practice until they get it right. Pros practice until they cannot get it wrong."

WINGWALK · Mar 16, 2004 03:29 AM

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>
>You can use the SV-22 and Chevelle as "Practise Planes"
>while you are working on the Cardinal :7 :7 :7
>
>

OK, if you say to use them for practice...

By the way, you blasted out the other night before I could give you some money for the tank you picked up for me. I don't think that one was another gift from above. Next time we meet up I'll even up.

Thanks for the mod to uniflow also.

Kirk

jobellcrank · Apr 04, 2008 03:41 PM

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>There's a real problem with the Brodak site and the actual
>kit.
>
>You look at the site and it tells you the LaGG-3 has a 55 inch
>wingspan and 540 squares. Not too bad. BUT --- you pick up the
>kit box and it says the plane inside is the same 48"/480
>square inch wing as the other Brodak warbirds. I do not know
>which is the correct information, but I don't want to buy the
>kit and get the small wing.
>
>The P40B is a bigger airplane. It looks like Pat Johnson
>designed it and it's very close to his full-bodied P40K kit
>that RSM carries.
>
>There are a number of discrepancies in the Brodak catalog that
>should be corrected.
>
>Anyway - between the two, the P40B would be a better choice
>for Kirk, but I have already told him to build a Cardinal
>
>
>

All the designs mentioned have a good track record behind them. None would be dogs, unless something horrible happened on the way to being finished.

I'd like to clear up a little information on the Brodak Lagg 3 though.

As the designer, I can tell you that the plane has 540 sq. inches of wing area, and a span of a small fration under 55 inches.

The wing is closely related to the Nobler, as are many other stunters.

The plane, when finished up with a scale like finish really stands out from the crowd, and performs well. It could also be easily modified to compete in sport scale as well.

I hope this puts some minds to rest.
I'm wondering why everything is spinning around?

John Miller

DennisM · Apr 05, 2008 04:22 PM

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Almost any traditional 40 sized stunt plane works well with the 46. I've seen Noblers and Twisters which do well with a 40, fly just fine with a 46. The larger 40 sized birds such as Cardinals and P40s (Pathfinders?) seem to need the 46 in order to come alive. With the small 40 sized planes, the 46 loafs and pulls.

Ion Muniz · Mar 15, 2004 06:05 PM

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If you don't want the Cardinal, build a Tanager.

I had one, and it's a helluava profile ship!

Ion


builditright · Nov 23, 2006 12:01 PM

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>Ok guy's I have an OS-46LA and was wondering what Profile
>plane kits were out there, besides the Cardinal and
>Pathfinder, that I could use it on? Looking for something
>different but will still fly and build well. OK.....HIT
>ME!!!
>
>
>Kirk

Hi Kirk & Thanks guys
the Excalibur is also a good choice because you can use it in classic as well as the pampa class you fly, but we know you already have pampa plane/s(LOL !)
you may even want to enter profile, so you get three in one.

and it's a looker

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Thank You and God Bless
Walter Umland
aka / builditright
visit my website at http://www.builtrightflyright.com
you can e-mail me at [email protected]

WINGWALK · Mar 09, 2004 06:39 PM

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So Walter, I'm sure you have a kit for one left up on a shelf somewhere...

Kirk

Ron King · Mar 10, 2004 02:46 AM

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If he has two, I'll fly you down to grab them.

PS (edit)- The weather forecast looks great for Saturday.




Ron

"Amateurs practice until they get it right. Pros practice until they cannot get it wrong."

finch · Mar 15, 2004 05:02 PM

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>So Walter, I'm sure you have a kit for one left up on a
>shelf somewhere...
>
>Kirk

If Walter doesn't have one, here's one for ya.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3181878551&category=34054

I know how much you were wanting one so I just had to run this one buy you, specially since you already bought that red bird kit from Henry.

Happy Fly'n

Leo Mehl · Apr 04, 2008 01:38 PM

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The Mo Best
Leo J Mehl

AERONUT · Apr 04, 2008 02:20 PM

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I am only a newbee but I had the chance to buy an unassembled second hand Brodak ARF late last fall and I was able to finish it in time to get in two flights before the weather tuned bad. It flew well with the O.S. .46 LA. I used 60' .018 lines and 15% fuel with castor added (about 6oz. per gal.) The plane pulled really well but I think I got too much tip weight. I am looking forward to making few changes this sping and haveing a fun flying season. Maybe even learn the beginers pattern.The plane is the P-40 ARF by Brodak.

Larry Cunningham · Apr 06, 2008 01:55 PM

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I would recommend Brodak's ARC profile Cardinal. I have one of these kits and it is outstanding. It is also available as an ARF, but I'd assemble and finish the ARC version myself, particularly if I were a beginner. That design is well established as a fine, easy flier.

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"When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt." -Henry J. Kaiser

Allen Brickhaus · Apr 06, 2008 02:41 PM

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I like the Excalibur and Bob Gialdini's Rayette. The Rayette plans are available through AMA and the John Pond plans service.
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Allen Brickhaus

TomN · Apr 07, 2008 12:14 PM

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How about supporting the Cottage industry before it dies. The big guy with the big bucks won't be hurt, by sending some work elsewhere.
Tom N

Carl Shoup · Nov 23, 2006 12:01 PM

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I use one on the Pathfinder from plans that is larger than the kit.

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Carl