handle manipulation

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david eyskens · Nov 23, 2004 01:08 PM

Friends,
I was reading the info on Ted's handle, he discusses the notion of finger controlling, I,.e index and/or pinky manipulation..I am having a difficult time abstracting what is meant here..I know it is significant, however maybe someone could explain this information in concrete terms..Like move index finger plane will rotate, move pinky and plane will also rotate..How so????????Ted if you are here speak up..I feel ignorant, and I dont like it-LOL--Regard David

barenekd · Nov 23, 2004 01:43 PM

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I have just attached lines to rings that I put on my index and pinky fingers for 1/2A stuff. No handle. Just wiggle your fingers, it works very well. I've never tried it on bigger stuff

Barry Baxter
http://www.controllineplans.com

captcurt · Nov 23, 2004 01:52 PM

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As long as you are able to grip the handle with a slightly relaxed grip--in the space between the first and second finger joints in from the tips, you can create much finer control inputs by alternate movements of the index and pinky than by using the full wrist or arm motion.

The motion is similar to that which you might use to squeeze the trigger on an imaginary pistol.

Hopefully Ted will elaborate here also.

FWIW

Curt

Harleyman · Nov 23, 2004 02:16 PM

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http://www.clstunt.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=read_count&om=11103&forum=DCForumID1

Check this link. It was a post a few weeks back about holding the handle. It has many replies describing finger control.

Chris

david eyskens · Nov 23, 2004 03:29 PM

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>http://www.clstunt.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=read_count&om=11103&forum=DCForumID1
>
>Check this link. It was a post a few weeks back about
>holding the handle. It has many replies describing finger
>control.
>
>Chris

Thanks Chris
It is helpful. I better understand what Ted is suggesting, the handle is the "BOMB"! See ya David

Ted Fancher · Nov 23, 2004 03:34 PM

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David,

I don't think you should consciously think about this action. It is something that will come naturally due to the fact that the two fingers are in contact with the arms of the handle (if they aren't the handle spacing is too wide for your hand...if it was mine I'd add some filler so they did touch).

I had flown for dozens of years and it wasn't until I went to a handle without the Hot Rock style arms and couldn't fly worth a darn with it and then came back to my trusty Hot Rock that I felt the sensation that I had been putting into control inputs and didn't even realize it.

I added arms to the handle that I couldn't fly well with and, lo and behold, I could fly again. Not important since it isn't available any more but that handle was a Gene Martine version of Bob Barons "bar and cable" handle. After modifying it I used it for many years very successfully. Saw no reason to go elsewhere until I went to Shanghai with Paul Walker and got to handle caddy for him a lot. Noticed his hard point/hot rock style handle and stole the idea from him.

The end result was my Precision Pro handle now available from Carl Shoup. The instruction sheet with the handle includes the comments about which David was asking.

Hope this explains it, David. If not try me again.

Ted

david eyskens · Nov 23, 2004 03:44 PM

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>David,
>
>I don't think you should consciously think about this
>action. It is something that will come naturally due to the
>fact that the two fingers are in contact with the arms of
>the handle (if they aren't the handle spacing is too wide
>for your hand...if it was mine I'd add some filler so they
>did touch).
>
>I had flown for dozens of years and it wasn't until I went
>to a handle without the Hot Rock style arms and couldn't fly
>worth a darn with it and then came back to my trusty Hot
>Rock that I felt the sensation that I had been putting into
>control inputs and didn't even realize it.
>
>I added arms to the handle that I couldn't fly well with
>and, lo and behold, I could fly again. Not important since
>it isn't available any more but that handle was a Gene
>Martine version of Bob Barons "bar and cable" handle. After
>modifying it I used it for many years very successfully.
>Saw no reason to go elsewhere until I went to Shanghai with
>Paul Walker and got to handle caddy for him a lot. Noticed
>his hard point/hot rock style handle and stole the idea from
>him.
>
>The end result was my Precision Pro handle now available
>from Carl Shoup. The instruction sheet with the handle
>includes the comments about which David was asking.
>
>Hope this explains it, David. If not try me again.
>
>Ted

Thanks Ted
I do get what you are saying--When I purchased the handle Brett was with me and made sure the handle fit tightly in my hand..The tite grip diffinately improves my ability to manipulate the handle/model..I think w/time and use of handle I will become more familar with its added strengths regarding my flying style and finger movement..
I also am familar W/Barons bar cable handle, I remember it very well..
Thanks for your comments and introduction to a handle which has given me a new perspective on precision flying via the plain old darn handle...Regards David....