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mkedave · Sep 24, 2001 02:39 PM

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Two questions.

1) I snapped off a NV on a fox 35 stunt right as it exits the spraybar. There is nothing to grab. How do I get it out?

2) As I learn the pattern, I have been bashing my profiles and brarking them along the sheeting. What is the right way to repair them? It is difficult to splice sheet in righ up to the wing/fuse joint. They seem to break just to one side of the profile and end up along the wing joint. The wing joint is not broke. I have been smearing slow epoxy on the joint and pushing it together. Some of the sheet cannot be saved and the splice is nearly impossible to make. Should I pull the wing out and re sheet it? Is glass cloth a good idea?

I know don't crash will slove it all

Dave.

Nils · Sep 24, 2001 02:56 PM

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I have a set of Snap-On easy outs with left handed drill bits. I use the smallest one in the set & a variable speed reversible drill to back the broken needle out. You should be able to buy just one small left handed drill bit at an auto supply store. They needles aren't tight, so they back right out. Go slow. You only have to get them to back out a few turns & then you can get hold of 'em with needle nosed pliers.
For the wing sheeting problem I used to glue 'em back as well as I could & then go over the joint with some glass cloth. You can either use fiberglass finish resin, thinned (with alcohol) epoxy or skinny glue.
If you get tired of re-attaching the wing panels I recommend a Ukey 35, they're much easier to fix while you're learning the pattern.

Nils

The Kiwi · Sep 24, 2001 04:11 PM

RE: Questions on profile's wing repairs and broken NVAs#2 source
LAST EDITED ON Sep-24-01 AT 05:28 PM (CDT)

Personally, I really disliked using Fox NVA's, compared to the Austincraft type that Fox had used at the very beginning, and I threw dozens of Fox's assemblies away, literally, over the 40 years or so since I began keeping Fox engines (I initially would not buy them, and when I acquired them in trades, didn't try to keep or use those that passed through my hands, but that was only as long as I was still just a callow youth, and I eventually did learn that in spite of homeliness, the Fox was to be respected).

A quick fix for most NVA's with a stub broken off almost flush is cutting a slot with a Dremel cutoff wheel, the smallest size wheel, and then using a tiny "00" size screwdriver to unscrew what is left behind.

To force a profile wing to break outside of the sheeted center area, and thus simplify repairs, DO NOT glue the wing into the fuselage until you cover the wing. Covering products other than iron-on plastic will strengthen the sheeting, but you don't want the silk, silkspan, plyspan, polyspan, or Jap Tissue to start & end outside of the wing to fuselage joint.

Properly applied, some lightweight glass cloth beneath the wing covering will help make a semi-bulletproof center section (cut it in an oval shape), and is the only way to really strengthen that part of the wing when you do use an iron-on plastic film. There was a very informative thread on this subject here in this forum quite recently. You would be well advised to review the older threads to find that one!

(OK, you don't have to plow through the entire list after all! I have just located the thread in question. It's good stuff. Just point your mouse at the next line and click):

(http://www.clstunt.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=read_count&om=783&forum=DCForumID1&omm=0&auto_sense=on)


Kiwi

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currell · Sep 24, 2001 10:59 PM

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This will work, but it is way too much trouble.

Just get a cheapie set of jeweler's screwdrivers, grab the smallest one, push really hard on the needle stub that is left, and usually it will start turning.

Or just grab anything small, like a drill bit as Nils mentioned, and do the same as above.

Wish I had a dime for every time I had to do this.

Currell

Bob Reeves · Sep 24, 2001 05:15 PM

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Use a pencil eraser to get the needle valve out and listen to Kiwi on the wing..

Howard Rush · Sep 24, 2001 11:56 PM

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If the pencil eraser (I use a finger) doesn't work, listen to Kiwi about the needle valve, too. The Dremel part number for the cutoff disks is 409.

The structures thread referenced by Kiwi addresses the issue of the lightest way to build wings to withstand flying loads. Crash loads and repairability are different problems.

Howard Rush

Tony Elmore · Sep 25, 2001 11:16 AM

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If y'all remember I asked a related question some time ago - I kep wiping of the needles when trying to start my Fox's - I must be flipping much to near the prop hub!

However I hadn't though of trying to get the needles out - they came out real easy just by pressing the broken end of the needle into the soft flesh of my thumb and turning!

Brilliant.

Now I only need buy some new needles!

Tony