Ignition Old Time Stunt at VSC 16

First: Don Hutchinson - JC Yates Madman - Orwick .29- 285.25
Second : Dale Gleason - JC Yates Madman - Orwick .29 - 282.95
Third : Glen Allison - Humongous - Ohlsson & Rice .60- 281
Fourth : Floyd Carter - Wildman - Orwick .64 - 280.25
Fifth : Frank Mcmillan -JC Yates Madman - K&B Torpedo .29-197.75
sixth : Jim Kraft- Super Duper Zilch -Super Cyclone .60 - 187
seventh : Jim Lee-Humongous- Madewell .49 - 127.5
eighth : Rusty Brown- Go Devil Jr.- Torpedo .29 - 100.75
ninth: Bob Liscomb: Go Devil Sr. - Orwick .64- 83.25
tenth: Charley Bruce - Star - Atwood .60 - 57
11th: Ed Kunaschk: Testor's Inverting Stunter- Anderson .65- crashed

Note: Ignition Stunt at the VSC is scored on the BEST flight out of two. (Because it is so difficult to get two consistent motor runs)

Spirit of '46 - Bob Lipscomb - Go Devil - Orwick .64

Others that flew:

Lou Crane: Buckjumper - Forster .29 (crashed in the glow circle)

Tabulators: Ginger Scarinzi- Ruby Hill
Pit Boss: Bob Hazle
Judges: Doug Taffinder - De Hill

George Aldrich's ashes are scattered on the grass Ignition circle. That is where he wanted them placed. GMA is the man responsible for creating a seperate event for the Ignition stunters at the VSC.

Hi De
Have a couple of questions about the ignition event. Were there only the 10 flyers in the category?

Were any of the ignition entries using mufflers?

Finally the Wildman is another model I haven't heard of before, is this another Yates design? I'd like to find out a little more about the design.

It was interesting to see the range of motors used in the ignition event, I was surprised by the number of 29's.
Cheers John Goodwin

The Wildman 60 was designed by Floyd Carter. Plans should be available from Model Aviation.

Floyd Carter is our very own "Dr. Spark". Plan #943, $11.25 plus postage. Good looking airplane, it looks a lot like a Yates Dragon, but a bunch bigger. The first link below is the order form. Maybe somebody can post a picture of one. Steve

http://modelaircraft.org/templates/ama/PDF-files/planlist.pdf

Elwyn
Thanks for the pic, it does indeed look similar to the Dragon. Can anyone tell me what year this dates from please. I'd like to know what motor the plans specify and basic info of span and wing area?
Many thanks
John Goodwin

>Hi De
>Have a couple of questions about the ignition event. Were
>there only the 10 flyers in the category?
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There were actually 15 entries in Ignition stunt. Four couldn't get their engines to run reliably, and Roy Decamera had a death in the family and was out of state.

Were any of the ignition entries using mufflers?
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No.

I wish you guys would say "Spark" ignition. ALL our model IC engines no matter if diesel, glow, or spark are "ignition" powerplants.

OK...here is a question that will reveal my ignorance of spark engines:

I have a nearly new, OR 60 ign engine. What kind of fuel should I run in it?

When I was a kid, I think we ran it on reular gasoline w/some 2 cycle oil mixed in.

The old standard was white gasoline mixed with SAE 70 "motorcycle" oil. That was "then" tho...

So my memory isn't fried as badly as I thought.

>So my memory isn't fried as badly as I thought.
>
>Curt

Bear in mind that when I said "motorcycle oil" I didn't mean the more or less modern two-stroke oil- which is thinner and differently formulated. The old Harleys and Indians, etc. that existed and were common for many years around the time model airplane motors first came on the scene were four strokes, but used a "total loss" oiling system. The oil wasn't mixed with the gas, but dumped in a separate tank and fed to the motor (gravity and hope, and pray the oil pump itself doesn't fail!). It wasn't recirculated- anything left over went out the tailpipe; if you ever watch any of the OLD B&W movies where they show motorcycles you can see the oil smoke trail especially on a take-off from a stop.
A lot of bike collector dudes still ride the old Indians and HDs on runs and such, sometimes over long distances- and they have to carry appropriate oil along to top off the tank at intervals.

>Finally the Wildman is another model I haven't heard of
>before, is this another Yates design? I'd like to find out a
>little more about the design.

There's a couple of shots of the Wildman 60 and other spark ignition stunters in the Barndoors Thread from VSC 2K3, FWIW.

Thanks for the information on the Wildman, anyone know what year the model goes back to?
I tried the links to the earlier pics but get the "cannot find server" message. Is it just me or are these some of the files that have recently been lost?
Cheers John

The WILDMAN 60 was designed and built in 1950. It was flown in a couple contests in the So. Cal area, and at the SW Regionals in Phoenix. The engine is an Orwick 64. The present model was built in 1993, exactly as the original (except no needlenose spinner this time).

>The WILDMAN 60 was designed and built in 1950. It was flown
>in a couple contests in the So. Cal area, and at the SW
>Regionals in Phoenix. The engine is an Orwick 64. The
>present model was built in 1993, exactly as the original
>(except no needlenose spinner this time).
>

I have heard some good stories about my retired colleague Dr. Spark. Something about "jamming" the country music station that people liked to play at work....

Hello Brett. I'd like to learn more about this story. I am indeed a retired electrical engineer from our dear old Lockheed, and I am also a current classical music performer. I am also an active "ham" radio operator (K6BSU), and I might be guilty of some occasional TV interference on some old lady's Oprah TV program, but nothing serious!

Retirement is great.. you ought to try it sometime.

>Hello Brett. I'd like to learn more about this story. I am
>indeed a retired electrical engineer from our dear old
>Lockheed, and I am also a current classical music performer.

I got the information from my old buddy and big-time muscle-builder Cisco Julian - something about jamming the country music station that the other guys liked to listen to at work, but drove you up the wall?

Interfering with radio broadcasts is a federal no-no! However, when the program is too much to bear, well, we used to do the same thing at Space technology Labs. We had a grid dip meter which worked very nicely for this purpose. The guys in the machine shop never knew. If you are over 50 you might know what it was really used for. What do they call it today?

Brett. OK. Cisco (also pronounced Ceeeeees--co) is one of my best friends. He is actually a native Hawaiian. So perhaps Cisco is correct, but my memory fails me. Sounds like something I would do.

>I tried the links to the earlier pics but get the "cannot
>find server" message. Is it just me or are these some of the
>files that have recently been lost?

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The Wildman 60.

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The Wildman 60.

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The Humongous.

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Larry Foster's Humongous.

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The Jamison Special.

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Don Still's Victory.

De. I didn't know that George's ashes were on the grass circle. Otherwise, I would have made a smoother landing with no bounce.

Can you believe it? Glen Allison beat me by 3/4 of a point! Next year I'm going to zap Hutchinson (but don't tell him or else he might practice more).

Way to go Floyd! I hope you get him.

>De. I didn't know that George's ashes were on the grass
>circle. Otherwise, I would have made a smoother landing
>with no bounce.
>
>Can you believe it? Glen Allison beat me by 3/4 of a point!
> Next year I'm going to zap Hutchinson (but don't tell him
>or else he might practice more).
>
>Floyd

Interesting- I didn't know that either. George had written me once that he would NEVER go to another VSC out there as the dust and all played havoc with his lungs.
Guess he changed his mind for his final flight...
Peace and thermals always GMA.